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亲人肺癌,求助中医!

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发表于 2009/10/10 14:32:27 | 显示全部楼层
保持心态平静,不要盲目求医,每天慢步一个小时以上,多吃温性的食品,给你一张芳可以用三次,老姜取汁30CC 蜂蜜30CC酒30CC白糖少许,用开水冲下,谁前服。你舅是军人,应该是打积伤,没有肺结核的病史吗/?如果有效果叫你舅给我电话13580288985,祝你舅早日健康!
发表于 2009/10/10 14:45:25 | 显示全部楼层
求教于《康康象数诊室》,试试。<br><br>最好不要化疗。<br><br>上网查查盐酸氨溴索口服溶液和罗红霉素胶囊的副作用。<br><br><br><br>

[ 本帖最后由 moni 于 2010/2/26 11:22 编辑 ]
 楼主| 发表于 2009/10/10 15:55:58 | 显示全部楼层

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在此谢谢 静观天地 !
谢谢 武老神  
谢谢 狐仙 !
谢谢 东方医学 !
谢谢 laohusheng !
谢谢各位热心人士!
 楼主| 发表于 2009/10/10 18:15:55 | 显示全部楼层
在民间中医网【妇幼课堂】发帖求助已两日,
非常感谢版主的宽容和帮助!
并由衷地感激各位热心朋友给予的回复和帮助!

这段时间以来的求医经过,真是令我们感慨万千!
一、 放疗和化疗是肯定不做了,花钱不少而且副作用大,就像一位朋友所说,恐怕财空了,人也空了。
二、 各朋友上传的中医生资料,我们都一一咨询过,联系过。大概为以下几种:
1、有说是祖传的,电话里不留我们地址,说到了沈阳再打电话联系。我们商议结论:不可信啊!
2、有推荐外地老中医,但都是路途遥远。还有朋友悄悄告知,某些老中医实属骗子。结论:不能找啊!

3、有的是省外某中医院有行医执照的医生,说是把病人各资料传真过去,便可邮寄汤药。治愈率60%~70%。结论:不敢相信啊!
4、有发布治癌系统理论的,只卖药不开方。结论:我们还尚不知用什么药。
5、有用气功治病的,两三个月就要花上好几万块,家徒四壁,花不起这钱。舅舅死活也不会去的。
再说,两三个月真能把肺癌治好,全身的病都治好?结论:去不得!
6、有推荐省外大医院著名的治癌专家的,有些是化疗和中药结合,光路费和挂号费,就把我们吓退了,治疗费用对我们而言就更是天文数字了!
7、有推荐自练太极,自练气功,自练静心法,象数治疗法等,精神疗法肯定有用,我尽量下载打印出
来给舅舅。可对于一个农村老人,没法在短时间找到师傅求学。  舅舅家离我家远,身边也无亲生儿女
照顾,只与老舅妈相伴。地里农活总得帮点。东北天寒地冻,乡下都是自己烧苞米秆暖炕或取暖。恐怕
没法静心练啊。

三、朋友们在此发布的所有药方我都已记在笔记本上,可是我哪个方子都不敢用啊!自己不是行医的,
也没有做中医的亲朋好友,还没找到老中医给舅把脉,这些方子哪个适合舅舅的现状,心里一点底都没有!
      去年妈肺癌病重时,无奈省内遍寻择不到良医。想到求医不如求己,自己就开始捧着各类中医书籍
狂啃。刚开始给妈服用了十枣汤,服后排水效果很好。药峻力大,不敢多用,随后服用苓桂术甘汤,因
自己不能做出正确辩证,只是知道胸中有水,便按水饮病施治。但效果不好,后又服用过附子理中汤、
栝蒌薤白半夏汤、泽漆汤。在服用泽漆汤时,头两付服后妈的情况大为好转,但以后又毫无起色,病情
在日益加重。看到李可的攻癌夺命汤,很想给妈试试,但又怕药力太大,又不对症,不敢轻易用。那些
日子,每天看着妈不得卧、不得眠,在病痛中挣扎的样子,我们束手无策,心痛如刀绞。妈最后痛苦不堪,趁我们上班之际,一口吞了大烟膏……
       妈妈去世前的事还历历在目,如今舅舅也得此重病,再也不敢自用药方,不是我畏首畏尾,确实是有前车之鉴啊。
       在我们面前,老舅很洒脱,他说活到这把年纪了,也够了。可仔细想想,身在病痛折磨中,老舅怎么可能不忧心?每天一小时一醒的睡眠,迟早会拖垮坚毅的老人。
       可叹人这一生太不容易,生在这物欲世界,历经了诸多磨难,老了还得为病痛所折磨,为钱所困啊!
       罢了罢了,一切也只能听天由命了。
       再次谢谢各位的热心相助!

      

[ 本帖最后由 丁丑 于 2009/10/11 10:55 编辑 ]
发表于 2009/10/10 18:44:04 | 显示全部楼层
病由心生,病也可由心解.正气内存邪不可干,邪之所凑其气必虚.要得肺癌肺气必先伤.什么能伤肺气呢?忧伤肺也.这深深的忧伤,这长期的忧悲的心情和无助的心情是导致肺癌的根本原因.而中医有句话叫着"治病必求于本".任何的不调理心情的治疗方法都是不正确的.心病还得心药医,世上没有救世主,救自己的只能是自己.
发表于 2009/10/11 08:08:16 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 <I>心物一元</I> 于 2009/10/9 20:49 发表就近医治,各地都有好医生的。 不要盲目拒绝西医,中西医本各有所长。 精神支持:看《解放》、《东方红1949》 收缩身体 放开胸怀
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<P>心物一元先生或(小姐),不好意思!在此唐突了。这个证,西医是百分之一百不治。如果患者不知道自己啥病,好弄!但如果知道,我还不知道咋办。请原谅我的冒昧。&nbsp;</P>
发表于 2009/10/11 23:23:07 | 显示全部楼层
十一长假看望了一位长辈,全身病,两种癌症,都十来年了,一路走来的病友全死光了。她以她的经验跟我们讲,癌症病人许多都是吓死的,心理负担如果放不下,什么神仙都治不了。相反,我另外一位长辈,今年春节还是红光满面,白白胖胖,后来查出来贲门癌,积极手术化疗,没几个月人就没模样了,知识分子心理负担又重,很快就去了。

建议第一放开心态,生老病死都是正常的,就算能延寿,人最终难免一死。只要安心就好,该放下的,不放下的,到头那一日,都要放下,还不如早些放下。心理包袱真能放下了,心态能调好,病就去了。

另外,可以练些吐纳呼吸的操,不用找师傅教,也不费太多事,把握住凝神静气,无欲无求的宗旨就成了,到这时候,还求什么的,就想多活一天,都是白饶的。

最后为楼主的亲人送上祝福。
发表于 2009/10/15 02:01:37 | 显示全部楼层
我看那个什么功就算了,从收费上看就不妥,我见过一个偏方:斑蝥一只,掐头,去脚后放入鸡蛋后煮熟,去斑蝥,吃鸡蛋。你不妨试试。还有如果斑蝥在医院买不到(因为有毒),可以再淘宝上去买。另外,庸医的基本特征:口若悬河的,包治百病的,收取重金的,等,请保重。
发表于 2009/10/16 19:00:15 | 显示全部楼层
<P>狼毒,煮枣吃,就可以了。网上可以搜索狼毒枣,有很多成功的案例呀</P>
发表于 2009/10/20 05:35:07 | 显示全部楼层
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">以下文字为梁冬和郭生白对话的实录。有助于帮助大家理解收听<SPAN lang=EN-US>5</SPAN>月<SPAN lang=EN-US>31</SPAN>日的《国学堂》<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁冬:重新发现中国文化太美,大家好!欢迎收听今天的国学堂,我是梁冬,从这一周开始我们特别邀请了<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1ersonName w:st="on" ProductID="郭生白">郭生白</st1ersonName>老师和我们一起来分享《伤寒论》,用郭老的话来说就是要讲《伤寒论》,必须要懂儒释道,中国文化理解多深,才能真正理解到《伤寒论》有多深,那为什么我们要讲《伤寒杂病论》这一本精典呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>有两个原因,第一个就是这本书在整个中国文化、中国人的生命历程、以及中医的历史上举足轻重。一直以来我们都没有找到一位真正有分量的老师来讲。终于我们能找到郭老,郭老今年已经超过<SPAN lang=EN-US>82</SPAN>、<SPAN lang=EN-US>83</SPAN>岁了,行医<SPAN lang=EN-US>60</SPAN>多年,祖上四代行医,同时在<SPAN lang=EN-US>80</SPAN>年代的时候还专著过《伤寒六经求真》这本书,所以今天我们特别感谢郭老来到我们的现场。郭老您好!</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:您好!<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁冬:郭老,请问,为什么我们要讲《伤寒杂病论》这本书?这本书的真正意义和价值在哪里?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我今天要用<SPAN lang=EN-US>“</SPAN>说白<SPAN lang=EN-US>”</SPAN>两个字对大家讲《伤寒论》。我为什么要用<SPAN lang=EN-US>“</SPAN>说白<SPAN lang=EN-US>”</SPAN>这来个字,因为《伤寒杂病论》自古就是殿堂里的经典,民间很少有人懂得。在我看来,这近千年所有的医学大家对《伤寒论》的解释都没有把《伤寒论》的核心解释出来,我看到了大家都共同走了一条路<SPAN lang=EN-US>——</SPAN>以经释经,以概念来解释概念。<SPAN lang=EN-US>&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁冬:用经来解释经书。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:以经典解释经典,以概念说明概念。所以把《伤寒六经》总是张冠李戴,没有真正地解释出《伤寒六经》是什么?我在上世纪<SPAN lang=EN-US>70</SPAN>、<SPAN lang=EN-US>80</SPAN>年代写《伤寒六经求真》的时候,我力求把<SPAN lang=EN-US>“</SPAN>六经<SPAN lang=EN-US>”</SPAN>的核心解释出来,我回顾我所写的《伤寒六经求真》,我也没有做到这一点。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁冬:那您怎么知道现在您就做到了呢?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我因为我做到了,我才知道我过去是没有做到的。我<SPAN lang=EN-US>70</SPAN>岁以后,重新整理《伤寒论》。我开始发觉,过去也是错的。今天我想对于《伤寒论》是真正地明白了。所以我要把这一部殿堂的经典教给社会,教给全体的人民,重回到民间来,让我们所有的同胞,哪怕是初中毕业的,都明白自己这个民族有这么一部伟大的医学著作。这个不是一个小事,我相信我说白《伤寒论》以后,会促使我们走出今天所面临的健康危机,也会使世界人民走出这场健康危机。</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:那您在这两个学校里面有没有一些个案,曾经看过的个案来验证你的这些</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>郭生白:我并不想用“个案”来说明这个问题。我是在观察,我还没想证明我什么,我只是在观察我本能系统论,是不是真理?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:那结论是什么呢?到至今为止。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:结论是:今天,我在做,我继续在做,我继续在观察,我继续在实验,我所得到的每一次都是成功的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:您现在看过来是成功的?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:我可以把一个案例,一个典型的案例提出来,跟大家交待一下。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:分享一下。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:唉,<SPAN lang=EN-US>07</SPAN>年<SPAN lang=EN-US>6</SPAN>月呀,我在首都师范大学门诊当中,去了我两个老朋友。这两个老朋友呢,也是在治病当中认识的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>老两口呀都是心脏病,经我给治疗以后呀,都治愈了。这个治愈呀,不是一般的治愈:一个七十多岁的老人,头发黑了,又长出来一幅新牙齿。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:真的?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:我不愿意讲这个这个这个细节。因为呀,我不认为是我这个药能让他长出牙齿来,我也不认为我这个药把心脏病治了又生出黑头发来,但是他生出来了,它长出来了,这就是他本人的本能系统的能力。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>这个时候呢,他跟我哭诉,他有一个女儿,是结肠癌,是多发性的。打开腹腔了以后呀,一看呢,治不了,切除了一个,剩下的大小,可能是许多吧,草草地就给缝合了。缝合了以后,一个月突然发高烧,化脓了。化脓了让我看,我说,这是刀口化脓了,你赶紧回你原来的医院去把这个脓啊,要排出来,然后再说。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">到了医院,医院的大夫说,不是刀口化脓,是里头有一条线,有一团线呀在化脓了。说干嘛那线呢,说缝合的时候没有往外拿。说为什么不往外拿呢?说你过个两个月就死了,拿不拿都一样——原话,我是这么听来的,我在这儿这么说的,这个是有案可查的,病案都有。这个时候,医院让这个孩子每天上门诊换药,她肚脐下边一个窟窿,这个窟窿有核桃大,这么个病人,怎么能抬着去医院换药呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>他爸爸也哭,他妈妈也哭,怎么办?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:怎么办?稍事休息一下,马上回来,国学堂。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">广告片花……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:重新发现,中国文化太美,大家好,欢迎继续回来到国学堂。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>依然是有请<st1ersonName w:st="on" ProductID="郭老">郭老</st1:PersonName>先生来和我们分享他的一些治疗过程当中对生命的体悟的过程。刚才举到一个例子吧,就讲到这个小姑娘的事情,请您继续说。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:这个孩子也在哭泣,没有希望了,没有生存的希望了,大家都知道没有生存的希望了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是,因为我刚写完本能论,我的本能论呀,其中有一个排异系统,能把一切有害的东西,它让它自己排出来。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>那么我本能论是真的是假的?这时候,我在考虑:我要不要接收这个病人?当时我,我不知道我是因为什么,我就说出来了,“我说我治。”这位老朋友说,“您离这么远,您怎么治呀?”“我说你把她给我送到家去。”<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我说出来这么一句话,我知道我是要负责任的,这句话要负很大的责任,而且有很大我风险。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>有一个助手,一位大夫,就示意我:这,不能做。我说为什么不能做?他说,“你知道有多大风险吗?”我说,“我知道,如果说,这孩子死了,他爸爸妈妈告我,那我没话可说,我抱着本能论一块儿上火葬场,也就这样吧。”我说“不要紧,我相信我不会失败的。如果我要失败了,我也就该完了。”为什么呀?我努力了,到八十岁,我写了一部本能系统论,原来是发现的一个假的,不是真理,我无话可说,也没什么遗憾!我说,“我已经说过了,我要接收这个病人。”<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>这孩子就给我送到家去了。送到家去了我找了个护士,找了一个护士,这护士一看,是这么个病人,跑了。这时候我没有办法,我再找,有人来吗?我只好把我的大女儿叫来了,我让我大女儿照顾这个孩子。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>这时候,她爸爸给我送来了三万块钱,说,“我给你三万钱”。我说,“我不能要你这个钱。”我说如果我要你这钱,我好像是推销我自己。我说我不要你这个钱,这是为了这个生命。我这个朋友说,“好吧,就按你说的做,我把这孩子给你了,我那个孩子已经走了”。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>这时候,我们心情都很沉重。我这么接收了孩子。我就用我的方法,连内科到外科,我都是用中医的方法……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:外科您用的什么方法?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:外科~因为我爷爷和我爸爸是内科,还有外科,到我这一代,我把外科放下了。因为我不愿意再去搞一个外科,我只搞内科,把内科搞好了,我就满足了,我就把外科放弃了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>后来这个孩子来了以后,我重新给她买了药,我给她把伤口放上,把药,用药线放到她这个,我看她这个病例里头,这个伤口呀,这个创口呀,两边,靠右侧有一个<SPAN lang=EN-US>17</SPAN>公分的,靠左侧是一个<SPAN lang=EN-US>14</SPAN>公分的刀口,在病例上。我一看,我很害怕——这个腹膜如果要是一烂透了,这个人就死了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我日日夜夜地跟我女儿呀,照顾着这个孩子。给她每天吃三次药,每天换三次药,中间要给她一些营养的东西吃。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我说她是“侥幸”,四个月,差八天不到四个月,伤口一边排出来一条线,一边排出来一条纱布,现在原物还在,为了留个纪念,这孩子在保存着。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>又经过到八个月,我给她做了五项<SPAN lang=EN-US>IP</SPAN>抗原,在北京工人疗养院做的,这五项<SPAN lang=EN-US>IP</SPAN>抗原全部是正常的。现在这孩子每天在工作,一直生活很正常,很好。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>这是我对自己的一次考验,我对自己的一次挑战,也是对本能系统论的一次挑战,我是胜利者。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>之后,我治疗的很多肿瘤病人,大多是痊愈的,少数是已经没有病机了,我才能见到,我才能接受——那是无能为力的。医学不是万能的,到了无可救药的时候,什么药也不行。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:所以您也承认,有很多病,常常也发生,也会发生您无能为力的时候?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:这是很自然的事。中国人对于生命呀,对于生命的看法是呀,有生必有死,这是自然规律。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是呢,我看到了有一个朋友说,医学注定是要失败的,但是这是各人的一种看法,你怎么看都可以,但是我们不这样看。我们看是生与死呀,这是个相对的问题,没有生,怎么会有死呀?没有死,怎么会有生呀?所以我们解读的,天人合一和阴阳五行,是终始嗣续。没有生,怎么会有终始嗣续呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:哪个“终”?“终始嗣续”,哪四个字呀?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:“终”是终了,“始”是开始。什么事情都有一个开始,都有一个终结呀。所以一个“终”,一个“始”,再“嗣续”,那就是生死在嗣续。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:哪个<SPAN lang=EN-US>shi</SPAN>,哪个<SPAN lang=EN-US>xu</SPAN>呀?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:“嗣”就是子嗣……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:谭嗣同的“嗣”?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:唉,谭嗣同的嗣,子嗣的那个嗣,当儿子讲那个嗣……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:<SPAN lang=EN-US>xu</SPAN>呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:继续的“续”。唉,终始嗣续,没有生死,哪有终始嗣续呢?所以这是一个自然规律。人不是永生的,永生的生物没有。不是光人,所有的生物都没有永生。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:所以呀,他这篇文章里面,就是在有一篇跟您讨论的这个文章里面,他认为很多中医是“神汉”,号称能治百病,其实在您观点里面,您也不认为。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:那是一种谎言,以谎言为真理的人,他本身也是在撒谎。为什么呀?你把谎言当成真理,你去说,那你说来说去,还是谎言嘛。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:那这个,那这个批评您的人,他不了解你呀。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:我不做这个理会,每一个人都有每一个人的智慧,每一个人都有每一个人的修养,这个是很自然的事情呀。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我不理会这个,你说我是神汉我也不理会,你说我是骗子我也不理会,你说我不懂科学不也不理会。但是有一点,我一定我要信其道。我不被外物所移,我一直要走下去,我一直要为生命走下去。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是我知道,今天有一句话,我不愿意说,就是说,我能治肿瘤,而且呢,是一张方子,而且不分息肉、囊肿、脂肪瘤、肌瘤、腺体瘤、神经细胞瘤……一切都不论,就这一张方子——排异汤,就排出去,您说这怎么能理解呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:怎么理解呢?那,师傅,这个事情我觉得会不会,有点把话说得太满了,也许您可能有一部分是有效的……</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:我不认为满与不满,我认为人应该谦虚。人在说大自然的时候,你不能去代替大自然去谦虚,因为这不是我的能力,是本能,是他自己的本能有这个能力,我凭什么说他不能呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:那为什么还是有那么多的人,每个人都有本能呀,对不对,那为什么还是有那么多人得了不治之症,最后……?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体">郭生白:每一个人呀,有每一个人的生活,每一个人都有对待自己的方式,你这种方式,你对待自己,是积极的,还是消极的?是有害的,还是有利的?往往人是不知道:我是在祸害我自己。比如说,有人骂我,我暴跳如雷,我这是自己在伤害我自己——他骂我,我就已经受到伤害了,我再暴跳如雷,捶胸顿足,我又是在伤害我自己。所以我对于这些事情,我不作理会。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">我就认为,每个人都有每一个人的智慧,每一个人都有每一个人的修养。你看我是骗子,那你可以随便说,我不在乎,我知道我是不是,我知道我是不是;你说我是神棍,我也知道我是不是神棍,因为你不理解。你也是一个好人,你也有一个好心——你认为呀,千万别人别受我的骗,你本来这就是好心。但是有一点,你不了解我,你把事情就做坏了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:所以我觉得呀,这篇发帖子的朋友,如果听见的话,跟郭老联系一下,因为郭老电话都有嘛,对不对?联系一下后,如果有兴趣的话,找一天呢,请他也到我们的演播室来,大家面对面的聊,我觉得呢……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:他要来呀,我请客,呵呵……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:呵呵……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我绝对请客!他绝对是我的朋友!<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>广告片花……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:重新发现,中国文化太美,大家好,欢迎继续回来到国学堂。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">刚才呢,我们借由啊,一篇这个与郭老争论的帖子来聊到了很有趣的话题。我觉得呢,郭老的反应呢,其实体现出了您的一些中国式文人的思维方式,不对抗……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:呵呵,我本来呀,搞的这个呀,是个和谐的医学,所有治病呀,是因为是一个和谐的理念,是一个和谐的方法。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>所以呀,与之相交甚久,所以我个人的这个性情呀,大致上啊都是接近和谐的,我不敢说我够了,我还不够,我是在努力呀要做得更好一点,我看这个医学的发展也会更好一点。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:是的,那刚才这位朋友呢,还提到感冒的问题。他说呢,您不了解这个感冒的机理,您曾经说过,说西医呢,看感冒呢,就是用抗生素把它杀死,把这个病毒,那中医看感冒呢,尤其您的方法呢,是把这些从体外进来这些异物呢,把它排出体外,那您对于他这样一个讨论,您怎么去做回应呢?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我对于这个问题呀~首先,我知道我是中医,我希望对方也知道我是中医……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:呵呵……</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我不做西医那些病理研究的,因为那些对我呀,意义不大。我对于感冒~但是我们的祖宗,已经知道呀,这是致病的物质。而且呢,是个活的,是个有生命的物质。因为在内经呀,很多的语言,很多对后人的教导,不断地提过这个问题。有把这个东西呀,用“大风苟毒”,这已经是对于这些致病物质是生物体有所认识。“苟”呀,这个字,在《说文》里头解释为“小草”,小草,是一种致病物。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:哪个<SPAN lang=EN-US>gou</SPAN>呀?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:一个“艹”头呀……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:一个“句”字?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:唉,一个句字。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:苟同,不敢苟同那个“苟”,是吗?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:唉,对,大风苟毒。所以他知道是毒,也知道是一种植物,什么东西。所以这个呀,中医呀,它不是对于一个物质去从微观上认识,没这个能力。两千年以前中国人没有,外国人也没有。只是外国人在这个工业社会,在工业,这个社会发展当中啊,有了工具,起码有了显微镜以后,有了化学,他们才把这个东西,才在一个形体上、本质上有一个认识。中医对于这个东西,认识是比较模糊的,这是肯定的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是我对于这个感冒呀,我也就是知道感冒就是一种致病的生物体,侵入到人体了,它侵入到人体了。中医并不是不知道,西医那个所谓的“免疫力”,中医不叫免疫力呀,我们现在可以叫,这个本能,本能系统。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>本能系统的活动能力如何,如果说这个本能系统的这个活动能力好的人,它进入了以后就把它排出去了,进入了就排出去了,所以他就不发病。如果这个本能系统在排异这个过程里头呀,在排异反应当中呀,出现了某种障碍,就发病,那发病是什么病呀,就完全是一个排异反应。中医看病是看到了这个排异反应,怎么着去帮助一下,去顺应这个生命排异法则当中,哪一个环节出现了障碍,去排除一下障碍,把这个排异反应过程结束了,这病好了,中医是这么看的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:好,他说,对于,西医也认为,是免疫系统能治疗感冒的,这一点呢,在初级,或者是病菌不太严重的情况下呢,大家都一样。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:因为这个东西呀,甭管中医西医,它不是对立的。真理和真理完全是相同的,不管中国外国,不管天上人间,真理和真理都是一致的,没有矛盾。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:对,那他刚才又提到一个问题呀,就是在帖子里面说,他说呢,但是对于免疫系统低下的人,西医在人患感冒的时候,更注重的是因为免疫低下导致的其他致病细菌并发的感染,例如,持续的高烧呀、咳浓痰呀、胸痛呀、呼吸困难呀等等呼吸道感染症状,这个时候,就需要抗菌治疗了……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:这个呀,因为不是一个体系,有一个不同的观点,一个不同的方法,这是很自然的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是呀,我在这篇文章里头,看到的是呀,他为什么要这么说呀?他是要说我不懂科学。其实我不懂科学也没关系,我只要能把病治好就行了,您说是吗?呵呵……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:这个,前两天我在另外一本书上看到呀,就说,他这个观点认为呢,科学也是接触真理的方法之一,不一定只有科学能接触真理。比如说音乐,它可能也能接触真理,文学,它也能接触真理,但这个咱们就不讨论了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>但是呢,他也有一个问题,他说呀,他说了,他扔出了一个西医也没有解决的问题来向与您讨论。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>他说,不知道郭老所倡导的中医,是怎么治疗致命细菌病毒感染的,比如,破坏免疫系统的艾滋。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:这个啊,我可以这么讲,我没有机会治艾滋病,我很想治艾滋病,我估计我能治好艾滋病!<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:话有点过吧?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我有根据。第一,我能治好免疫系统缺陷的病,比如说,风湿类风湿、红斑狼疮、白血病……</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:您治过白血病吗?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我当然治过,我治过很多的白血病,这三种白血病我都治过。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:治好了吗?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:哎呀,我治的那个孩子已经是很有名的医生了。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:那这样,师父,这话可不能,这是当着全国人民说啊……</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我知道……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:当着全国人民说啊,您这个要,到底有人如果要查的话,您要提供相关的联络方式……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我有……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:要查的哟。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我知道,我要为真理负责任!我刚才说的话,不是我说的,是一个事实说的。任何一个病例,都有事实的根据!你再给我一个病例,我提给你一个新的证据!<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我不至于出这个笑话吧?在全国人民面前,撒谎?我为什么要撒谎呀?一个公益讲座我来撒谎吗?我不至于吧?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:人八十几岁了,顶多再干个二三十年吧……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:我准备再干二十年。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:呵呵……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:呵呵……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:呵呵,然后再休息个三十年。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:因为我不是说,我为什么要干二十年呢,我这里头并不是我有什么别的目的。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>我第一个目的,我每天都感觉到啊,好多好多的病人需要我,这是其一。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>第二一个,我还想让大家知道一个中医的形象,是什么?再让大家知道,人应该怎么样对待自己,仅此而已!<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:我觉得,站在一个媒体人的角度呵,我的观点是这样的,就是第一呢,郭老讲的这个案例呢,如果各位朋友有兴趣的话,他可以提供相关的人等,你可以每一个朋友都去采访他,是吧?或者去问他……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:这个问题呀,两个七十多岁的老人,天天接待这个不行。如果是有人来访的话,你可以呀,先别去打扰他,我可以给你找律师,可以给你找公证,做一次性的采访。要天天……这个流水般地去采访,哪个老人也吃不住。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:哦,就是您刚才说的这些人都七十岁了呀?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">郭生白:都七十多岁了,这两个老人。就是任何一个年轻人,就我说的这个女孩子,要天天老有人去采访,别的事也干不了,这也承受不起吧?<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:可以这样,以后每个月定个一天的采访日,全部约到那一天来</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>郭生白:你可以呀,你可以找律师,你可以找公证处,唉,你可以把病例拿出来研究,你可以去做各种的,去检查,可以。<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN>千万哪,别天天上别人去登门拜访,那谁也承受不起,那是我的罪过。要是(那样)……<SPAN lang=EN-US><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">梁</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体">冬:是。关于呢,后面还有一段关于发烧的这个,他与您的讨论,我们稍事休息一下之后呢,继续回应,呵。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>
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